Comments on: People for the Eating of Tasty Arabians? http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/ Snarky commentary on the breeding of poor quality horses, silly or abusive training techniques, and pretty much anything else that annoys me! Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:00:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: arabtrainer http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-39607 arabtrainer Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:47:15 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-39607 Thank you , prairie Farmer, for your post on Oct 29. I agree with you fully. Thank you , prairie Farmer, for your post on Oct 29. I agree with you fully.

]]> By: ivalmas http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-39059 ivalmas Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:26:56 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-39059 The crooked leg filly has been given to a pet home. Hopefully they will not breed her, or try to ride her. They are going to try to correct her legs. *shakes head*. Good thing that owner is totally shrugging off responsibility on other people The crooked leg filly has been given to a pet home. Hopefully they will not breed her, or try to ride her. They are going to try to correct her legs. *shakes head*. Good thing that owner is totally shrugging off responsibility on other people

]]> By: nativetimber http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38980 nativetimber Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:03:28 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38980 skipper marlow, Horses and cows flick their mane/head or tail when a fly the size of your finger nail lands on it, whoever is saying that horses feel pain differently from us is a total idiot, i must of missed that post ... "is that meat culture, which depends on the butchery of sentient beings, is inherently oppressive in nature." lol so whats new in that statement ? Animals depend on us, what matters is what we are prepared to do to make sure that they are killed humanly and live decent happy lives while living,and all of us need to do what we can, but i really dont think humans will ever stop eating meat , we are carniviors we have the teeth and the eyes on the front of our face etc. We ALL have inherently oppressive natures. As for lobsters being cooked alive, they dont just sit there in boiling water, the lid of the pot must held on, as they will try to crawl out , i have only seen this done, we WOULD NEVER do this ourselves or eat one , and we are beef farmers !!! (i usually eat meat for EVERY meal.) But i do believe with enough public support we could stop byb's. skipper marlow,
Horses and cows flick their mane/head or tail when a fly the size of your finger nail lands on it, whoever is saying that horses feel pain differently from us is a total idiot, i must of missed that post …
“is that meat culture, which depends on the butchery of sentient beings, is inherently oppressive in nature.”
lol so whats new in that statement ?
Animals depend on us, what matters is what we are prepared to do to make sure that they are killed humanly and live decent happy lives while living,and all of us need to do what we can, but i really dont think humans will ever stop eating meat , we are carniviors we have the teeth and the eyes on the front of our face etc. We ALL have inherently oppressive natures.
As for lobsters being cooked alive, they dont just sit there in boiling water, the lid of the pot must held on, as they will try to crawl out , i have only seen this done, we WOULD NEVER do this ourselves or eat one , and we are beef farmers !!! (i usually eat meat for EVERY meal.)
But i do believe with enough public support we could stop byb’s.

]]> By: Fairfax http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38974 Fairfax Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:29:23 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38974 Most of the Arabian mares who were "celebrated producers" were from 1950-1980. Most of the Arabian mares who were “celebrated producers” were from 1950-1980.

]]> By: Skipper Marlowe http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38932 Skipper Marlowe Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:25:31 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38932 Regarding whether or not cattle or lobsters or whatever are "wired differently" than horses, supposedly making them more amenable to being slaughtered to satisfy human appetites: this argument presupposes that lack of "emotion" or "pain" are reasonable indicators of slaughter-worthiness. This makes no sense. Maybe a lobster can't reward you with unconditional love, or whatever it is that people seem to think their pets feel toward their owners, but I guarantee you that even a lobster would opt out of being boiled alive if it could. Neither a given species' ability to "experience emotion" or "feel pain" in human terms, nor human sentimentalism toward a given species, is relevant to the larger issue, which is that meat culture, which depends on the butchery of sentient beings, is <em>inherently oppressive</em> in nature. The horse meat industry with its attendant barbarism is a case in point. A clam is the same as a horse to an indifferent cosmos. Regarding whether or not cattle or lobsters or whatever are “wired differently” than horses, supposedly making them more amenable to being slaughtered to satisfy human appetites: this argument presupposes that lack of “emotion” or “pain” are reasonable indicators of slaughter-worthiness. This makes no sense. Maybe a lobster can’t reward you with unconditional love, or whatever it is that people seem to think their pets feel toward their owners, but I guarantee you that even a lobster would opt out of being boiled alive if it could.

Neither a given species’ ability to “experience emotion” or “feel pain” in human terms, nor human sentimentalism toward a given species, is relevant to the larger issue, which is that meat culture, which depends on the butchery of sentient beings, is inherently oppressive in nature. The horse meat industry with its attendant barbarism is a case in point.

A clam is the same as a horse to an indifferent cosmos.

]]> By: nativetimber http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38861 nativetimber Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:33:44 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38861 Breed registries shouldn't make money from showing, or breed registering, you would end up with a very limited gene pool. Slaughter houses just promote over breeding. Byb's need to stop breeding. We all need to promote this website add permanent links to emails, websites etc . Byb's... if they are advertising on craigslist etc just simply send them a link to this site. Sometimes a horse does need to be shot, (bad accidents not included ) u don't need a backhoe , u need to put an add in your local paper beforehand for free dog food. When shooting a horse locate where the spine meets the brain, use your fingers just back from the bridle path, Then stand in front of horse the point u are aiming for is 1 and 1/2 inches above the mid point between the eyes but u need to angle the gun so the bullet goes though the brain and skull etc and hits the base of the brain where it attaches to the spinal column. If u do this correctly the animal will drop without even blinking. Use a good quality .22 .. not a cheap copy from china. Breed registries shouldn’t make money from showing, or breed registering, you would end up with a very limited gene pool.
Slaughter houses just promote over breeding.
Byb’s need to stop breeding.
We all need to promote this website add permanent links to emails, websites etc .
Byb’s… if they are advertising on craigslist etc just simply send them a link to this site.
Sometimes a horse does need to be shot, (bad accidents not included ) u don’t need a backhoe , u need to put an add in your local paper beforehand for free dog food.

When shooting a horse locate where the spine meets the brain, use your fingers just back from the bridle path,
Then stand in front of horse the point u are aiming for is 1 and 1/2 inches above the mid point between the eyes but u need to angle the gun so the bullet goes though the brain and skull etc and hits the base of the brain where it attaches to the spinal column.
If u do this correctly the animal will drop without even blinking.
Use a good quality .22 .. not a cheap copy from china.

]]> By: Onalark01 http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38829 Onalark01 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:44:03 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38829 OMG..I just saw the add on Craigslist and was going to post it to you..WTF?! Who in the hell rides a 7mo old and throws a picture out there for all to comment on..Idiots..F'n idiots..that poor filly will probably have buckled legs by the time the year ends...idiots! OMG..I just saw the add on Craigslist and was going to post it to you..WTF?! Who in the hell rides a 7mo old and throws a picture out there for all to comment on..Idiots..F’n idiots..that poor filly will probably have buckled legs by the time the year ends…idiots!

]]> By: BWPBaby http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38822 BWPBaby Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:56:28 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38822 Off topic, but does it seem like this woman is collecting inappropriate 4-H horses for her daughter? http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/grd/1443170400.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/grd/1443205808.html Try before you buy... Off topic, but does it seem like this woman is collecting inappropriate 4-H horses for her daughter?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/grd/1443170400.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/grd/1443205808.html
Try before you buy…

]]> By: BWPBaby http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38821 BWPBaby Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:40:54 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38821 Flashygrrl- I didn't say that, to date, it has been more humane to do it in the US, I said that if we keep it local, we have the OPTION of taking more control. Though I suppose the actual slaughterhouses are only a fraction of the problem. We could flip a b**** about the METHOD of transport and still have the actual slaughter facilities located elsewhere. In an ideal world (sadly not likely), that would minimize the economic incentive due to the long shipping distances (as zebrasreams07 brought up), as well as the costs of shipping humanely. Flashygrrl- I didn’t say that, to date, it has been more humane to do it in the US, I said that if we keep it local, we have the OPTION of taking more control. Though I suppose the actual slaughterhouses are only a fraction of the problem. We could flip a b**** about the METHOD of transport and still have the actual slaughter facilities located elsewhere. In an ideal world (sadly not likely), that would minimize the economic incentive due to the long shipping distances (as zebrasreams07 brought up), as well as the costs of shipping humanely.

]]> By: Ponykins http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/people-for-the-eating-of-tasty-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-38820 Ponykins Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:18:19 +0000 http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=1260#comment-38820 Why would AHR even feel the need to have to come out with an "offical" statement on their views on slaughter? I don't see how their views on any subject, either for or against, would have any bearing on anything. AHR thinks you should buy USA goods, AHR thinks you should eat your vegetables. Does what they say really matter? I suppose the lawmakers in DC would look at the views of a big registry as representing the views of the majority of their members and take their statement at face value. They should do what they can to help promote the Arabian. Not, support a quick way to dump your unwanted culls. How many colts get culled each year in hopes of finding that one "keeper"? They should be offering discount registrations for geldings, special awards for performance geldings, and for stallions who sire a high percentage of WINNERS, not just high numbers. I'd like to see more things for the average Arabian owner to work towards, such as their distance program that rewards trail miles. I am not a BN or am I Mr. Boggs, I can't and won't even try to compete with people like that, so give me something else I can do with my Arabian that is within my budget and fun. Why would AHR even feel the need to have to come out with an “offical” statement on their views on slaughter? I don’t see how their views on any subject, either for or against, would have any bearing on anything. AHR thinks you should buy USA goods, AHR thinks you should eat your vegetables. Does what they say really matter? I suppose the lawmakers in DC would look at the views of a big registry as representing the views of the majority of their members and take their statement at face value. They should do what they can to help promote the Arabian. Not, support a quick way to dump your unwanted culls. How many colts get culled each year in hopes of finding that one “keeper”? They should be offering discount registrations for geldings, special awards for performance geldings, and for stallions who sire a high percentage of WINNERS, not just high numbers. I’d like to see more things for the average Arabian owner to work towards, such as their distance program that rewards trail miles. I am not a BN or am I Mr. Boggs, I can’t and won’t even try to compete with people like that, so give me something else I can do with my Arabian that is within my budget and fun.

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