<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Best of FHOTD: Beginner mistakes that can kill your horse&#8230;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/</link>
	<description>Snarky commentary on the breeding of poor quality horses, silly or abusive training techniques, and pretty much anything else that annoys me!</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:46:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-44682</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-44682</guid>
		<description>She&#039;s going to break her lawn mower if there&#039;s that kind of junk in her paddocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s going to break her lawn mower if there&#8217;s that kind of junk in her paddocks.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dukie</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-40358</link>
		<dc:creator>Dukie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-40358</guid>
		<description>Snohomish County Animal Control avoids seizing horses if at all possible. Although there are some caring officers, the management (shared with the comptrollers office) does not want the financial responsibility of seized horses. There also is an unfortunate focus on horses as livestock rather than companion animals. I fails to see any logic in that rationale.

Should charges be filed and the horses seized, the owner has fifteen days to notify the court whether they want to regain possession. For at least that two weeks AC must pay all the expenses of the animals. If the owner wants to fight for custody, AC must support the animals until the case goes to court. Rescues and individuals can offer to support the horses with no remuneration. With most rescues full, that leaves individuals to step up to the plate. I assure you there are not many appropriate foster homes available.

So, yes call them. Call them often! They won&#039;t like it. Who cares? I believe my next call will be to the Monroe Monitor for a little follow up story to Judy Caton&#039;s building being auctioned. Snohomish Animal Control won&#039;t like that at all. 

As for her buddy, 5minpins, you are enabling her with your support. I know she has assets that could readily be sold to buy hay. How about the truck? You do what you have to do when your animals need feed. Or you give them up. By the way, since those two vets support her horse care how about you share their names so we can ask them directly?

So it comes down to money. And social responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snohomish County Animal Control avoids seizing horses if at all possible. Although there are some caring officers, the management (shared with the comptrollers office) does not want the financial responsibility of seized horses. There also is an unfortunate focus on horses as livestock rather than companion animals. I fails to see any logic in that rationale.</p>
<p>Should charges be filed and the horses seized, the owner has fifteen days to notify the court whether they want to regain possession. For at least that two weeks AC must pay all the expenses of the animals. If the owner wants to fight for custody, AC must support the animals until the case goes to court. Rescues and individuals can offer to support the horses with no remuneration. With most rescues full, that leaves individuals to step up to the plate. I assure you there are not many appropriate foster homes available.</p>
<p>So, yes call them. Call them often! They won&#8217;t like it. Who cares? I believe my next call will be to the Monroe Monitor for a little follow up story to Judy Caton&#8217;s building being auctioned. Snohomish Animal Control won&#8217;t like that at all. </p>
<p>As for her buddy, 5minpins, you are enabling her with your support. I know she has assets that could readily be sold to buy hay. How about the truck? You do what you have to do when your animals need feed. Or you give them up. By the way, since those two vets support her horse care how about you share their names so we can ask them directly?</p>
<p>So it comes down to money. And social responsibility.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: newhorsemommy</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-40010</link>
		<dc:creator>newhorsemommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-40010</guid>
		<description>I have a beginner question.

Has anyone ever heard of a horse casting in a three-sided run-in shelter?  My BO was concerned about leaving the bottom of the shelter we are improving closed, but I have never seen one open at the bottom, and have been more concerned with building up the footing (dg, sand, and stall mats) so that the horses are not standing in mud all winter.  If they won&#039;t hang out in the shelter, I intend to have them fed in there to force some dry time.

If this is a concern, do I need to bank the sides?  What is the easiest/best way to do this?  It&#039;s not a huge shelter to start with, so I don&#039;t want to take up a lot of space.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a beginner question.</p>
<p>Has anyone ever heard of a horse casting in a three-sided run-in shelter?  My BO was concerned about leaving the bottom of the shelter we are improving closed, but I have never seen one open at the bottom, and have been more concerned with building up the footing (dg, sand, and stall mats) so that the horses are not standing in mud all winter.  If they won&#8217;t hang out in the shelter, I intend to have them fed in there to force some dry time.</p>
<p>If this is a concern, do I need to bank the sides?  What is the easiest/best way to do this?  It&#8217;s not a huge shelter to start with, so I don&#8217;t want to take up a lot of space.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: StPetersGal</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39915</link>
		<dc:creator>StPetersGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39915</guid>
		<description>Fence - no more barbed wire for me! (Until I started reading this blog, I never knew anything was wrong with it - a few cuts, so what?)

My crippled sweetheart well-bred, well-built AQHA mare is crippled because of barbed wire, and ice. She was galloping in the pasture in winter, slipped on the ice, and ran into the fence. She was a yearling. She had a horrible cut right in the muscly part of her forearm, way into the muscle. She still has a good dent there - but the awfulness, and care, of that wound covered up the fact that she had a badly chipped knee. She was sound on it for a few years - never ridden. When we noticed something wrong, there was already arthritis all over it. The vet said, no riding, no breeding, and keep her thin, if we wanted her to last. She&#039;s just ten, and we have maybe two years left. We have to move, and will put her down when we do. She&#039;s a heartbreaker, all right. When she was still sound, she would run up to the fence and do a nice sliding stop - for fun. And let&#039;s not talk about how sweet, and &quot;bomb-proof,&quot; she is by nature... now something has gotten into my eye. BRB.

Ruthie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fence &#8211; no more barbed wire for me! (Until I started reading this blog, I never knew anything was wrong with it &#8211; a few cuts, so what?)</p>
<p>My crippled sweetheart well-bred, well-built AQHA mare is crippled because of barbed wire, and ice. She was galloping in the pasture in winter, slipped on the ice, and ran into the fence. She was a yearling. She had a horrible cut right in the muscly part of her forearm, way into the muscle. She still has a good dent there &#8211; but the awfulness, and care, of that wound covered up the fact that she had a badly chipped knee. She was sound on it for a few years &#8211; never ridden. When we noticed something wrong, there was already arthritis all over it. The vet said, no riding, no breeding, and keep her thin, if we wanted her to last. She&#8217;s just ten, and we have maybe two years left. We have to move, and will put her down when we do. She&#8217;s a heartbreaker, all right. When she was still sound, she would run up to the fence and do a nice sliding stop &#8211; for fun. And let&#8217;s not talk about how sweet, and &#8220;bomb-proof,&#8221; she is by nature&#8230; now something has gotten into my eye. BRB.</p>
<p>Ruthie</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mtponygirl</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39905</link>
		<dc:creator>mtponygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39905</guid>
		<description>I have had some experience with this one.  It&#039;s not just grass that can kill your horse-- there are dozens of plants that are toxic to horses, ranging from mild stomach ache to near-instant death, from sunburn to serious neurological damage.  Learn what plants in your area are toxic and check your field carefully!  Plants can spread, too, (obviously) so if your neighbor has weeds, keep your eyes peeled for invasions.  Healthy pastures are less likely to have weeds so good range management (preventing overgrazing, watering, and maybe fertilizing) is always important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had some experience with this one.  It&#8217;s not just grass that can kill your horse&#8211; there are dozens of plants that are toxic to horses, ranging from mild stomach ache to near-instant death, from sunburn to serious neurological damage.  Learn what plants in your area are toxic and check your field carefully!  Plants can spread, too, (obviously) so if your neighbor has weeds, keep your eyes peeled for invasions.  Healthy pastures are less likely to have weeds so good range management (preventing overgrazing, watering, and maybe fertilizing) is always important.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TxMiniatureHorse</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39845</link>
		<dc:creator>TxMiniatureHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39845</guid>
		<description>Make sure you tie at wither height or higher: otherwise he can injure his neck if he pulls back. Plus it&#039;s easier for him to get a leg over a lower tied lead. And for Heaven&#039;s sake, tie to the POST, not the PANEL. 

If you are trail riding/driving with others, don&#039;t be an a$$. If your horse is behaving like one, GO BACK.  We went on a trail drive a few years ago, and this woman kept running her Mini up to us, then stopping and holding back until her friend caught up. She did this several times, we kept pulling off to the side, thinking she wanted to pass. Nope. Finally, her horse had enough and took off. Almost took out my guy, and cut right across my friend&#039;s Mini, who jumped and then he exploded- his harness BROKE ( it was brand new!) and he promptly kicked the slats out of our brand new (to us) Meadowbrook cart. My friend got him stopped, she did not fall out. We got him unhitched and led him back to the parking area. Our drive lasted all of ten minutes. Ruined the whole day. The wench who caused the accident? She had a WONDERFUL time. Fortunately Dunny was cool when we put him back in harness a few weeks later. This was a 13YO been there, done that fella. Never assume....

Carry a knife at all times. Went to feed my young colts, everyone was fine. Came back three minutes later and Dartagnan has pierced his nostril with a bucket! He&#039;s pulling back, the hole is stretching (I feared it would tear!) and he was not people friendly at that time, so approaching him was not an option. I reached over and cut the baling twine holding the bucket to the fence. I had the bucket in my hand and he was free in a second. I did catch him then to check him over and the hole had instantly closed. Barely any blood at all. It healed perfect and you can&#039;t even tell which nostril.

If you use smooth high tensile wire, KEEP IT TAUT!  Found another colt one evening just standing along the fence, didn&#039;t want to come in for dinner. I looked out the other door, and he has a corner guy wire wrapped around a hind leg- don&#039;t ask me how he did that! I had to physically pick up his hiney to free him. He stretched, then sauntered off to dinner, no worse for wear. No marks, nothing. 

The best saying I ever heard: &quot;Horses spend their entire lives trying to commit suicide&quot;. Don&#039;t give them any options.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make sure you tie at wither height or higher: otherwise he can injure his neck if he pulls back. Plus it&#8217;s easier for him to get a leg over a lower tied lead. And for Heaven&#8217;s sake, tie to the POST, not the PANEL. </p>
<p>If you are trail riding/driving with others, don&#8217;t be an a$$. If your horse is behaving like one, GO BACK.  We went on a trail drive a few years ago, and this woman kept running her Mini up to us, then stopping and holding back until her friend caught up. She did this several times, we kept pulling off to the side, thinking she wanted to pass. Nope. Finally, her horse had enough and took off. Almost took out my guy, and cut right across my friend&#8217;s Mini, who jumped and then he exploded- his harness BROKE ( it was brand new!) and he promptly kicked the slats out of our brand new (to us) Meadowbrook cart. My friend got him stopped, she did not fall out. We got him unhitched and led him back to the parking area. Our drive lasted all of ten minutes. Ruined the whole day. The wench who caused the accident? She had a WONDERFUL time. Fortunately Dunny was cool when we put him back in harness a few weeks later. This was a 13YO been there, done that fella. Never assume&#8230;.</p>
<p>Carry a knife at all times. Went to feed my young colts, everyone was fine. Came back three minutes later and Dartagnan has pierced his nostril with a bucket! He&#8217;s pulling back, the hole is stretching (I feared it would tear!) and he was not people friendly at that time, so approaching him was not an option. I reached over and cut the baling twine holding the bucket to the fence. I had the bucket in my hand and he was free in a second. I did catch him then to check him over and the hole had instantly closed. Barely any blood at all. It healed perfect and you can&#8217;t even tell which nostril.</p>
<p>If you use smooth high tensile wire, KEEP IT TAUT!  Found another colt one evening just standing along the fence, didn&#8217;t want to come in for dinner. I looked out the other door, and he has a corner guy wire wrapped around a hind leg- don&#8217;t ask me how he did that! I had to physically pick up his hiney to free him. He stretched, then sauntered off to dinner, no worse for wear. No marks, nothing. </p>
<p>The best saying I ever heard: &#8220;Horses spend their entire lives trying to commit suicide&#8221;. Don&#8217;t give them any options&#8230;. <img src='http://www.fuglyblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jennifer R</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39844</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39844</guid>
		<description>I DO believe in leaving a halter on in most cases in the stall, as long as it&#039;s leather or breakway. It makes a huge difference to the chance of being able to successfully evacuate that horse if there is a fire. I do not believe in leaving one on in the paddock.

I agree on not punishing from the ground. The best punishment to aim at a horse that deliberately dumps you is, in my experience, extra work. The real key factor is that *somebody* should, if at *all* possible, get right back on that horse. If you can&#039;t, and you&#039;re at a boarding barn, ask the trainer or somebody, even if you have to bribe them to do it...otherwise a horse can rapidly learn that dumping a rider is a way to get out of work, and that&#039;s outright dangerous. This goes for whether the dump was obviously deliberate/malicious or whether it was a pure accident. Unless the *horse* has managed to end up injured...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DO believe in leaving a halter on in most cases in the stall, as long as it&#8217;s leather or breakway. It makes a huge difference to the chance of being able to successfully evacuate that horse if there is a fire. I do not believe in leaving one on in the paddock.</p>
<p>I agree on not punishing from the ground. The best punishment to aim at a horse that deliberately dumps you is, in my experience, extra work. The real key factor is that *somebody* should, if at *all* possible, get right back on that horse. If you can&#8217;t, and you&#8217;re at a boarding barn, ask the trainer or somebody, even if you have to bribe them to do it&#8230;otherwise a horse can rapidly learn that dumping a rider is a way to get out of work, and that&#8217;s outright dangerous. This goes for whether the dump was obviously deliberate/malicious or whether it was a pure accident. Unless the *horse* has managed to end up injured&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: beckyb</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39834</link>
		<dc:creator>beckyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39834</guid>
		<description>A couple years ago I boarded one of my horses at a crazy woman&#039;s place. I have many stories of her insane &quot;rules,&quot; but I&#039;ll stick to one right now.

The horse&#039;s each had a stall in the barn and a separate &quot;all-weather&quot; gravel turnout, shelter and 1/4 acre grass area. It was a really nice setup, but she wouldn&#039;t let your horse onto the grass until she mowed it because &quot;horses grazed unevenly.&quot;

After my horse had been there 2 weeks, she finally mowed, but didn&#039;t bag the clippings. I asked her when she was going to rake up the clippings so I could turn my horse out, she said she wasn&#039;t going to. She insisted up and down that grass clippings were just like hay, she had worked at a vet, and they were fine for horses to eat.

Um, I don&#039;t think so. The grass was green and wet and was already fermenting when I got there a few hours after she mowed.

I had to spend 3 hours raking up the clippings before my horse could go out. It was actually a good thing, because I was able to clean up all the baling twine, trash and other junk that had been hidden in the grass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple years ago I boarded one of my horses at a crazy woman&#8217;s place. I have many stories of her insane &#8220;rules,&#8221; but I&#8217;ll stick to one right now.</p>
<p>The horse&#8217;s each had a stall in the barn and a separate &#8220;all-weather&#8221; gravel turnout, shelter and 1/4 acre grass area. It was a really nice setup, but she wouldn&#8217;t let your horse onto the grass until she mowed it because &#8220;horses grazed unevenly.&#8221;</p>
<p>After my horse had been there 2 weeks, she finally mowed, but didn&#8217;t bag the clippings. I asked her when she was going to rake up the clippings so I could turn my horse out, she said she wasn&#8217;t going to. She insisted up and down that grass clippings were just like hay, she had worked at a vet, and they were fine for horses to eat.</p>
<p>Um, I don&#8217;t think so. The grass was green and wet and was already fermenting when I got there a few hours after she mowed.</p>
<p>I had to spend 3 hours raking up the clippings before my horse could go out. It was actually a good thing, because I was able to clean up all the baling twine, trash and other junk that had been hidden in the grass.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Wildrose</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39803</link>
		<dc:creator>Wildrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39803</guid>
		<description>All of this makes me think... how do horses survive in nature? :) I can see why some people say mustangs are smarter, heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this makes me think&#8230; how do horses survive in nature? <img src='http://www.fuglyblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I can see why some people say mustangs are smarter, heh.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chamoiswillow</title>
		<link>http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/beginner-mistakes-that-can-kill-your-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-39777</link>
		<dc:creator>chamoiswillow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fuglyblog.com/?p=839#comment-39777</guid>
		<description>livexlovexrodeo:  My horses wear their halters from stall to paddock and paddock to stall and that&#039;s all!  And naturally they have the fancy rubbermaid trough with drain valve for regular cleaning and heater in the winter.  I just thought that the halter point had been made enough in the earlier comments.  Even without a halter left on, a protruding hunk of metal is a bad thing.  I know plenty of one-eyed horses!  And sadly, some people insist on leaving halters on.  I used to board at one such barn, so I bought all my horses thin leather breakable halters.  Now they&#039;re at home so my barn, my rules, and halters off except when being actively handled!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>livexlovexrodeo:  My horses wear their halters from stall to paddock and paddock to stall and that&#8217;s all!  And naturally they have the fancy rubbermaid trough with drain valve for regular cleaning and heater in the winter.  I just thought that the halter point had been made enough in the earlier comments.  Even without a halter left on, a protruding hunk of metal is a bad thing.  I know plenty of one-eyed horses!  And sadly, some people insist on leaving halters on.  I used to board at one such barn, so I bought all my horses thin leather breakable halters.  Now they&#8217;re at home so my barn, my rules, and halters off except when being actively handled!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
